In this Theology Lab event, author Kristen Kobes Du Mez and National Association of Evangelicals president Walter Kim explore the past and future of American evangelicalism, gender norms, and what it means to follow Jesus today.

Defining Evangelicalism and Personal Experience

Walter Kim and Kristen Du Mez opened by sharing their unique relationships with evangelicalism. Kim, the son of Korean immigrants, came to faith through white evangelical youth ministry and eventually joined its leadership. Du Mez, raised in a Dutch Reformed context, never identified as evangelical, but acknowledges being immersed in its broader culture—especially its consumer-driven media and messaging.

“Jesus and John Wayne”: Cultural Impact and Response

Kristen’s book Jesus and John Wayne argues that evangelical culture has traded the biblical image of a humble, compassionate Jesus for one modeled on militant masculinity and Christian nationalism. While Twitter debates have sparked backlash, Du Mez highlighted the overwhelming support she’s received from everyday evangelicals, including pastors and conservative men, who engage her work with integrity. More disappointing, she noted, is the lack of constructive academic debate from some corners of evangelical scholarship.

Faithful Critique and the Need for Heroes

Walter Kim reflected on how evangelicals often cling to cultural heroes who fail to live up to biblical standards. He emphasized that Scripture consistently portrays flawed figures—such as Moses and David—not as icons, but as examples of God’s grace. This invites believers to embrace humility and a willingness to be self-critical, something Kim believes is currently lacking in evangelical culture.

Recovering the True Image of Jesus

The conversation turned to what is lost when Christians embrace a conquering, hyper-masculine image of Jesus. Du Mez explained that this cultural ideal often marginalizes traits like gentleness, compassion, and self-control—ironically, the fruit of the Spirit. Both speakers called for a fuller understanding of Jesus that holds together strength and humility, justice and mercy.

Gender, Theology, and the Complexity of Masculinity

Walter and Kristen examined how American Christians have often confused cultural gender norms with biblical teaching. From emotional suppression in men to rigid gender roles, these norms have more to do with American ideals than Scripture. They encouraged a return to a theological foundation that acknowledges differences without enforcing harmful binaries.

Faith in Action: Courage and Compassion

Kim shared a powerful moment of Christian unity following the invasion of Ukraine, where denominational leaders set aside differences to respond with bold compassion. For him, this embodied a Christlike masculinity—one rooted not in dominance, but in service and solidarity.

A Call for Broader, Deeper Conversations

Both speakers emphasized the need for honest, open theological conversations that reflect the diversity of the global church. Du Mez challenged evangelicals to resist gatekeeping and to engage historical and theological complexity with humility. Kim echoed the need for discipleship that fosters courage, empathy, and shared mission.

Final Reflections: What Does It Mean to Follow Christ?

Ultimately, the conversation circled back to the core question: What does it mean to follow Jesus in today’s world? The panelists agreed that true faith calls for introspection, repentance, and love—not power for its own sake. They invited listeners to hold their convictions humbly, remain open to challenge, and ground their identity in Christ above all.